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Happy St. Patrick’s day from a confessed UK Horse Racing fanatic

Today is the day that everyone is Irish and the tradition is to drink green beer.

If I was given a choice on where I could be today I think it would be in Boston to take in the St. Patrick’s Parade.

A few years ago I attended the parade in New York City.

It was a cool, crisp day and we managed a fantastic viewpoint along 5th Avenue.

I think the whole city took the day off. Everywhere there were masses of people.

Later, the best we could do is standing room only in one of the local Irish Pubs.

One day I would actually love to celebrate in Ireland at the Down Royal Race Track.

Today was a good day for me on Betfair.com , up two points.

So far I am on target for the month.

This is month one of forty eight in my millionaire plan.

Gotta start somewhere.

Manipulation of Horse Racing System results by well known Gambler

I have been tracking some horse racing systems and have been actually betting one that had an impressive three year plus history.

Here’s the rub though.

Since I have been tracking his system he is not reporting his results accurately.

First, he recommends both bets and lays at minimum or maximum prices.

He sends his recommendations out every morning and I place my bets within 15 minutes of receiving his email.

One day he recommends a 10 point lay at a maximum price. I have no problem placing and matching a bet below his recommended price.

The horse wins.

Next day he does not report the 10 point loss. He recommended a maximum price of 2.5, I managed to get 2. The Betfair SP was 2.9.

I emailed him and he responds that of course his results will differ from mine. He consults those who are paying for his service and based on averages if more than 50% do not get the bet placed he does not count it. He states that this also applies to winning bets.

Woa!!!!!!

If you think about this his posted results are not reliable.

In fact I believe the Betfair SP was his deciding factor

The services that just post lays use the SP to report their results. This makes sense.

However this gambler suggests to take his recommendations, place your bets and if they are not matched no big deal.

Given this strategy he has to include all bets if they could have been matched, not if some of his followers do not get their bets in time.

Right now he is reporting a positive 5 day gain of 6.12 points but I am suffering a -6.6 loss.

Not good.

Plus it totally invalidates his posted historical results.

The question is how many suggested bets has he not included.

The gambler in question, Max Redd.

Here is a quote from an email he sent me.

Another important point to note is that the results posted on the Results page are not my own personal figures, but a general consensus of bets matched by members.

In response to previous suggestions for a fair and accurate way to record the available prices on my selections, I have asked a group of long-term members to send me their results each day. Where a selection has been matched at my suggested price or better, by more than 50% of members, then this will appear on my results at the average price matched by those members. If only a small number of members, or indeed no-one gets matched at the advised price, then the selection will not appear on the results, whether it wins or loses.

So his results are not really his results but rather based on averages of the betting patterns of his followers.

Max Redd may know a lot about horse racing systems but he does not have a clue about how to report his results fairly.

His system requires that if his recommendations could have been matched from the time he recommends them up to race time then they have to be counted.

This is based on the fact that he recommends to place your bets at his recommended prices and then go and do something else.

Here is a quote from his website:

The good news is that you can make excellent profits by simply betting my selections at minimum advised prices. Log-in to your betting exchange account when you receive my daily message, and submit all your bets at your required prices. You can then leave all your bets to be matched, without having to sit at your PC screen all afternoon. Nothing could be simpler. Any bets that do not get matched will automatically be cancelled, leaving you only with good value bets.

Conclusion, buyer beware.

Back from LOS and the Horse Racing System is kicking

After a long flight home and not being able to sleep, I decided to track a few horse racing systems to see how things pan out. I setup a spreadsheet and I am going to track four systems.

After a month’s worth of data I will post the results.

Right now, based on tips given to me by my friend in Pattaya. I have effectively doubled my money in just a few days.

At this moment my balance is $396.21 at Betfair.com. I have funded $200 so far with the goal of achieving a bank of $1,000 either through winning or funding.

My plan is to bet $10 units, or 1 point using a value betting system.

I am quite serious about not only managing my bank properly so that I can handle losing streaks but I also plan on showing extreme discipline in following the horse racing system.

I am in it for the long-term and I would be thrilled averaging 300 point years.

Here is the goal: 300 point year results in a $3,000 gain in the first year. Nothing to retire on but I will also be increasing my betting point throughout the year as well.

Just to keep it simple, if I am betting $40 units (1 point) in year two and again average a 300 point year my bank will increase to $16,000 ($1000 + $3000 + $12,000).

Assuming the same happens in year three my bank will be $52,000.

Technically it will be higher because I plan on maintaining my betting point at 1% of my bank, adjusted monthly.

Mathematically it is sound but acheiving a 300 point year will require help from the experts, high discipline and proper stake management.

Now, it is off to bed since I am suffering from jetlag.

My Horse Racing System Sucks

First, my horse racing system sucks!

Second, I know nothing about the United Kingdom horse racing scene.

In my previous posts a chance encounter with an English punter aroused my curiosity.

I registered with Betfair.com and have been using his daily horse racing tip that he gets from using the Factor 4 horse racing system.

However today I have not been able to hook up with him so I am sort off wandering around Betfair by myself lost.

I started the day at $141.50 went as high as $216.68 and am now currently at $165.19.

Remember, this is my second day of betting and I started with a stake of $98.50 (initial deposit of $100 less credit card fee).

So far that is a return of 68% over two days.

I started to fool around with trying to arbitrage my bets, that is have a bet structured that I can only win and not lose.

Here is an example:

2009-01-21 12:18 GB Wolv 21st Jan / 12:20 7f Hcap / A Big Sky Brewing Lay 8.08 10.00 Won 10.00 153.98
2009-01-21 11:59 GB Wolv 21st Jan / 12:20 7f Hcap / A Big Sky Brewing Back 10.78 10.00 Lost (10.00) 143.98

Why would I do this.

If Big Sky Brewing won I would have won around $90 on a $10 bet. But I was not very confident and in the end he did not win.

So as I was watching the board at Betfair I noticed that his odds were dropping and I could now place a lay bet. If he did win my combined bet would net me over $30 but if he lost I would break-even. Since I was not confident of my initial bet I went for it.

I was confident enough that he would place so I also placed a $10 bet and netted $11.80.

I did not have confidence because I was not using a horse racing system.

I lost big time on the 4:00 Musselburgh Race.

Here are the results:

4:00 – Musselburgh
3 Hunters Belt 16/1
10 Alvarado 17/2
2 Doc Wells 33/1

You can see that all long-shots placed and up to now I was making money placing the favourites or using the arbitrage trick.

As I write this I am waiting for the 8.50 Kempton race to start. Looking at the board I see another arbitrage opportunity but I only have a $10 bet netting $35 so I m going to let it ride. I have Greenwich Village based on a horse racing tip from the Betfair newsletter.

Good news, he won, so my ending balance today is $198.44, a 100% return on my money in two days.

So I guess I can say it still is a good day at the races even though my horse racing system sucks.

The Horse Racing Tip

As mentioned yesterday on day one of this blog I received a horse racing tip from a new friend I met while enjoying a beer and the scenery at a Pattaya Beer Bar in Thailand.

His horse racing tip: bet Majuro to lose in tomorrow’s race at Southwell.

So I opened an account at Betfair.com as he advised using the promo code BTE111.

With that code I could receive a free bet up to 25 pounds.

So here are the results:

2009-01-20 09:41 7028793276 2009-01-20 07:25 GB Sthl 20th Jan / 09:30 7f Hcap
Comm Charged 5% On Net winnings of CAD45 - - - (2.25) 141.25

2009-01-20 09:41 7028793275 2009-01-20 07:25 GB Sthl 20th Jan / 09:30 7f Hcap /
Nightjar Back 4.50 10.00 Won 35.00 143.50

2009-01-20 09:41 7028793276 2009-01-2007:25 GB Sthl 20th Jan / 09:30 7f Hcap /
Majuro Lay 2.68 10.00 Won 10.00 108.50

I deposited $100.00 Canadian and after all commissions and fees my balance is now $141.25

Because of the free $25 pound bet I did not follow proper betting form. I bet over 35% of my $100 stake on one race.

Not only did I lay down on Majuro (bet that the horse would lose) but I also bet on the next favourite to win, Nightjar.

All in all a good day at the races.

However I seriously violated safe betting rules by exposing so much of my stake on one race.

In a future post I will explore safe betting rules if you are serious about earning a second income using my suggested horse racing system.